Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. God how I loved playing golf. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. Have a look at his numbers. Yes! This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. [/quote] Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. Learn how your comment data is processed. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. [/quote] What about the balls we use. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. It's good for some laughs. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Mike Austin Swing: When Does the Release Start? I have played golf for 22 years. I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Just would be interesting to see. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Yes, the TrackMan Combine data is extremely valuable for identifying weaknesses that can be improved, but it is just as (arguably more) important for identify strengths that the golfer can play to without having to spend any additional time practicing. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] 2 were over 320. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff Couldn't of said it any better myself. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. 5 0 obj Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. Again, I would certainly encourage you to get fitted for these due to the variations on offer and especially get fitted on grass as a mat does not give any useful feedback on interaction needed for bounce and grind. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. That tells The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. Thanks! The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. Most golfers think that the guys on the PGA Tour hit the ball incredibly long. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. I don't measure my driver distance. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. I know I hit the ball a long way though. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. I think this is very interesting but misleading. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. %PDF-1.5 Length is nothing. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. 716MB (5-PW)- DG S400 BALL; Chrome Soft X. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. Is the dispersion linear, eg at 176 yards is it the same proportion at 88 feet or more? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Top 50 Pros Analysis. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. Carry Distance 302.9 For those of you interested in how these averages compare to individual pros we have listed in the table below the average stock carry yardages for a selection of the top pros when it comes to how far they hit their driver. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. Your previous content has been restored. My average distance was 235-245. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). Launch Angle 11.28 any 7 iron data ? It has to do with my ability. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. [/quote] Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [/quote] I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. The title would be just as useful as well. It's good for some laughs. I don't measure my driver distance. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. I can't seem to find them. I appreciate that. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. I'll pass. I think you wish you hit it further. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. Ive tried this with many people and they shoot about their handicap. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. Club Head Speed 119.55 If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. [/quote] The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. They are clean and contemporary. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. Physics First. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. [/quote] I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. <> Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year.
