It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. I am on info overload. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. It may come in other thicknesses too. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. p.s. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? It was one coat of seal. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? It requires a special approach. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. Here are our raw floors right now. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. You only need an inch. I think we found a good match. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. Thank you. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? Thanks so very much Shannon. Which one did you end up going with? The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). I'm sorry you felt diminished. We are building next year and making decisions now. Choosing finish on white oak floor. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! Is the Nordic still a problem? We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. @mtpo Your floors are beautiful. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. I know I've gone on for a while. It must be sanded down and done again. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. Sigh. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. It was applied Saturday morning. Thanks! Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Not a one. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. One other question. Any suggestions would be great. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? Heres a photo of our family room. It doesn't make sense. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! And like all things "time is money". They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. Ahhhh. That makes SOOOO much sense. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Milesi Natural 2k? Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". I could also put hot pots on the stainless. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Ours is from Norway. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? Gravity works. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. (Mirror and lighting still not in). G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. Intense seal will cast yellowing. P.P.S. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Argh. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. How are things holding up a ~year later? Yep. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. It will make you happy. Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Its for a new build. Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). The coating should not come up. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. I also read you dont want to go too thin. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. Then go with water based and be done with it. 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The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. The 'raw' look is a special look. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. How are you liking it so far? I have read so many wood floor horror stories. Good luck on your project!! Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. I knew this was IT. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Absolutely love the matte finish. Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. Floors look VERY good! Web$55.00 Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral Cream Area Rug, 7x10 for sale in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Not always as expected. WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. I absolutely love the floors. Here are some of my samples. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Finished with three matte protective coats. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. @Moran Blueshtein. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. For a house your size and a $50k budget. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. can you share any pix? There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries). The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). I am sorry , Thank you!! HELP!!! Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? They are not even good choices for low care floors. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. You should look it up. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. Thank you for asking. If, youre looking for a small amount. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. Mega turns yellow. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. They were great to work with. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow.
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